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Home  OMC News Reviews Car Bombs- Good Bad or Ugly
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Car Bombs- Good Bad or Ugly |
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Written by OMC-Spider
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Now that the Chopper whoring seems to be somewhat under control thanks to the latest patch for battlefield 2 (patch 1.03) we can begin to experience some great game play; or can we?
There is now a new source of aggravation, the c4 suicide car bomber. It’s another case of players figuring out ways to use the tools provided by EA in ways that EA didn’t expect, reducing the value of other weapons/equipment and throwing out the balance game play to one degree or another.
Is Car Bombing a valid technique? In my opinion the answer is not as clear as it might be due to the fact that it is used in the real conflict this game is meant to mimic. Should the Iraq Special Ops class be able to use it and the US equivalent class not be allowed? That would be my choice, but then what about China? Not the easiest weapon to balance, what would one give the US and/or China as a comparative weapon for an Iraq Car Bomber?
It would be nice if in the next patch from EA they address this issue as I hate the entire concept of it. There is no way a US soldier of sound mind and body would suicide at all let alone suicide car bomb! (my humble Canadian opinion). Maybe EA will put a non-stick coating on some of the vehicles or something in the future; giving a car bomber a limited range before his C4 fell off, or maybe it’s just me that does not like this technique.
The car bomb is simple and effective (to a point). It requires only minimal skill as a player and the equipment is almost always readily available. The main objective seems to be to take out tanks or other armor who have a good foothold and cannot be removed easily; thereby clearing the way for players with real skill to go in and clean out the area. This method can be used as a single player Rambo/Suicide type attack or it also can be done as a team of 2 or more. How to become a Car Bomber
in Battlefield 2** First toss your ethics out the window then read on.
Single Player Car Bomb Attack
- Attach some C4 to a buggy, hummer, or other fast moving vehicle.
- Select the C4 detonator as your weapon before you get in!
- Get in car bomb
- Drive and locate a target
- Race up to within C4 range of target
- Jump out allowing cars momentum to take it right up the target
- Blow C4
- Run like heck or secure area (assuming you didn’t blow yourself up)
Team car bomb attack. (requires voice communication)
- Special Ops class attaches some C4 to a buggy, hummer, or other fast moving vehicle.
- Special Ops who attached C4 hides and waits (or goes with and gets out early)
- Other team members get in car bomb
- Driver locates a target
- Driver orders everyone out of the vehicle before you get too close (** especially the C4 detonating player)
- driver continues to target
- driver either jumps clear or goes suicide and calls for detonation
- Special Ops blows C4
- Team goes in to secure position
- Suicide driver spawns back on leader (special ops?)
How to stop car bombers? Mines!
But unfortunately the numbers of noobs who hit friendly mines are incredible making it very hard to consistantly defend a base.
As I said I personally hate this car bombing technique, and I don’t do it, but it is effective at breaking a defense line and I doubt it will go away anytime soon.
Maybe EA could increase the penalty for blowing up yourself with C4 to minus 10 or more, and maybe increase the penalty for running over friendly mines to minus 10 with no punish on the engineer who laid the mines.
I’ll discuss Mines and Noobs in a later article, but in short noobs are everywhere and it’s the noobs who deserve punish for running over mines!! They must learn to watch for mines and not be given the “power” to punish others for their own stupidity!! In essence the way mines are now EA is teaching the engineers not to lay mines in a defensive posture and EA is teaching noobs they don’t need to look for them!!
The need for tweaking battlefield 2 is far from over, but it’s still one of the best games out there if you get in to a good game. Teamwork is the key to success and fun Comments:car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-16 15:36:22 By: Anonymous | | | Now i will have to say mr. spider, i was a marine for 5 years, and we never, ever told another country to please quit carbombing us. It is a very real , albeit very cowardly way to kill people but it is very effective. Chopper whoring? The United States Marine Corps, bases every single attack or movement they make with three very important aspects. Transport helicopter, gunship or attack helicopter, and the AV-8B harrier. Since you play as the marines in this game, I would imagine you would want the most realistic setting possible. Some people can't join the Marines, others are too afraid too. Maybe next week I will see an article stating that snipers should also not be allowed in the game? Oh and as for the question about the Chinese, you could very well expect them to use tactics such as using children to hide bombs, and the most horrible of torture tactics on the prisoners they capture. Maybe when that war comes you can right their military and ask them to please play fair. By the way I am not a car bomber, however i do like to stick my c4 on aircraft and blow them up after they take off. Maybe EA should send me an email asking me to please stop playing Battlefield 2 online. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-16 20:57:28 By: Anonymous | | I agree to car bombing being valid, tho; it might not be everyone's idea of fair gameplay, but it's a way of life for some folks and who said war is fair?!
EA did one hell of a job creating BF2, and I vote for EA to make the changes as they seem fit. Just my 2 cents.
[5150]PkThirst
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Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-17 13:14:30 By: Anonymous | | I guess I was not totally clear of my position.
Yes I think it's weak and a tactic best left to players
who need an edge due to lack of real skill.
** But the the real issue is that the USA does not car bomb.
** As I stated in the article I feel the penalty
** for a US player should be harsh and swift
** a terrorist player should be rewarded (I supoze)
** All players should have a very long respawn time
** for killing ones self regardless of how you do it.
(if you drop a grenade it your feet same applies IMO)
Just my thoughts
and just so you know I will never lower myself
to such a level as to Car bomb.
(but have fun those that do; until EA stops it, if they do)
OMC-Spider
P.S.
Car bombing is as weak as claymore or C4 at the flag
** Valid - but weak - show your true colors Red White and Blue!!
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Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-12-28 08:33:14 By: Anonymous | | Quick guide to getting rid of car bombs...
Turn up your sensitivity in tanks. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-02 06:34:43 By: Anonymous | | | pppffft..weak? u know whats WEAK ..the marines got BEST WEAPONS..even in an bloody game they couldnt balance...whos weak man..in real life iraqis would CAr bomb u to so...its reality..and i luv c4 cars...dont cal it suicide car...cus i olmost never die(noobs does)...but i am able to get tanks out of the way...whos NOOB..use what u have to use to get THOSE tank and apc lamers (whores)out of the way...=CF=G.I.NOOB.TOW |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-03 08:08:06 By: Anonymous | | | car bombing is for lusers |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-13 07:54:03 By: Anonymous | | car bombing has infact been a part of BF since the days of battlefield 1942 we at EA know what we are doing and factor car bombing into gameplay!
My advice for you!!! STOP YA BITCHING AND GET ON WITH IT! |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-13 12:15:17 By: Anonymous | | | car bombing sound like fun ill try it and oh IT IS JUST A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-07 20:10:59 By: Anonymous | | | id say its fine there easy to stop with the m203 or the f2000, i think its all fine how it is tho its cheap |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-19 08:04:52 By: Anonymous | | You claim the Us would not carbomb but, remember, we don't choose what team we're on because of their ethics or methods of attack. Most of the time I'm auto-assigned to a team or if I have a choice it'll be because a friend is on a certain team.
If a player car-bombs it isn't because 'Iraq would', it's because they want to, irrespective of which team they're on. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-29 04:13:47 By: Anonymous | | Sometimes it is the only way to get rid of an amoured tank/vehicle that has you pinned down, especially as the AT weapons seems annoyingly weak.
I do use it, but have to say I always try to leap out before I get too close to the target vehicle, and use the momentum of my car to take the C4 to the target then blow it, my aim is to survive the attack not be a suicider at all.
Regards,
[MORK]Gog |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-03 08:07:25 By: Anonymous | | car bombing is da best and i am the highest rank
o ya |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-13 23:52:21 By: Anonymous | | | yes, car bombing is totally valid, and I think Battlefield 2 is a great game, but god, I havent played such a glitchy error filled game in a long time |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-17 13:24:10 By: Anonymous | | Some valid points my friend :)
But one of your main points that BF2 is a simulation in not correct.
BF2 is an Arcade Style War game. (that's why it's fun!)
In a simulation once you are dead you are dead til the next round.
** That would stop car bomber in thier tracks!!
** Car bombers are weak players that would not last
** more than a few minutes in a simulation,
** or in a one on one combat in BF2 - hence the need for suicide!
** (I prefer to kill you, repair my/your vehicle and contine on)
As far as the China goes - they used children to
hide bombs in real war, if EA put children as a remote
control vehicle or something I would be fine with that.
And for snipers - they are a good addition to the game,
and can easily be dealt with using team work and skill. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-22 02:56:05 By: Anonymous | | | Stop carping on about "Skill" its in the game and its there to be used. The skill in car bombing is not blowing yourself up or your buddies and annialating the enemy |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-22 02:58:42 By: Anonymous | | | Do you ever whore tanks and fire an explosive round at one ground troop ? Drop a single bomb from a heli on a single infantry man, bare down 20 rocks from an apache on a tank, wheres the skill in that ? lighten up its a foookin game man. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-22 19:36:56 By: Anonymous | | we all have our favorite way to whore
-some are more offencive then others |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-25 07:54:54 By: Anonymous | Edited By: spider
On: 2005-11-28 10:58:55 | Fricken waaaaaaaa
car bombing does take skill and its a lot of fun
maybe u should learn to blow up a suicide car before it rams you
I enjoy finding a server with FF off and doing a group car bomb. If your teammates don't get out, the car doesn't blow up. You can even get in the back seat of the hummer and blow ur c4 without damaging yourself, teammates, or your ride.
suck it pussy. car bombing is FUN |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2005-11-28 10:59:13 By: spider | | FF off - Weak !! with a capital W!!
and good way to hide the lack of skill LOL! |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-01-07 06:05:38 By: Anonymous | | It is a perfectly valid tactic and show how gamers can improvise. That is the genius of the game..using your environment and tools to inflict as much pain on the enemy as possible. Car bombs are a viable tactic whether you dislike it or not. The thing I hate are the stupid bunny hoppers. That is not realistic at all.
I agree with the mine issue: Engineers should not be punished becasue some idiot on your teams blows himself up. Everytime I place mines around a base for defense...I announce it over team chat...but some idiot fail to pay attention. |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-18 17:30:35 By: Anonymous | | Hear hear! I fully agree.
I am a very skilled player and use every tactic I can to destroy my enemy and support my friendlies, my capatain and win the game for my team. I do not use exploits like dolphin diving, entering unenterable buildings, or 'super C4 tossing'.
I usually toss three C4s on whatever car I am driving and using the rules of Maneuver Warfare (gulf I and II) move fast (past known defenses) and strike hard. I use that C4 to kill any armor I find and as I drop out of that car, use the car as a distraction for nearby infantry. they watch the car and this allows me to shoot them. Strike hard and fast.
If I approach a seemingly empty flag, I will leave my car in the open, in a seemingly good positon while I seek concealment. The car looks like a nice place for my enemy to jump in and use the machine gun to take ME out. I call this my Car Theft Deterent and blow them the fook UP. Bait often works very well in this game. C4 on your own tank does the same thing.
Another tactic: I'll park that car near where I think enemy will spawn and wait. If I happen to be in a tank and the enemy are hiding near to that car but out of my range, I'll shoot the car and the extra blast from the car will kill the enemy.
I am a highly skilled player who does his best to support my captain and team. C4 was obviously designed to be attached to friendly and enemy vehicles. It is up to the captain of the enemy team to Point Me Out to the tank driver who's job is to kill me before I blow him up. A simple shot or M203 round will stop me in my tracks, too. If those players are not "skilled" enough to stop me using all the Intel gathering devices this game has, while in a tank, surrounded by infantry, then I place your "skill" test fairly in your court.
Note on Mines: THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERNT ICON for mines than C4. It should be an exclaimation point and large. Claymores shold have a new icon as well, or downgrade C4 to a "C4" icon.
See ya on the servers and have FUN! *8)
-Corp.Punishment |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-05 11:39:34 By: Anonymous | | | of course it,s valid a player laying down his life for the good of the team ooorah!!! |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-20 18:21:43 By: Anonymous | | What anyting in any game gives unfair advantage to any one or any one side, then that is to be fixed, otherwise it is legitimate. The only thing to do would first to decide.. is car bombing giving any one or one side unfair advantage? It would seem not, since any team can do it right? All armies have c4 and buggies..
So if all armies CAN perform this car bombing. then everyone has access and it is not unfair advantage. It's not a glitch or bug either so nope, not unfair advantage.
I call it clever gameplay. Which I am going to have to test out !
Clever gameplay and if the player has the SKILLLLLL to escape his clever brave feat with his life and destroying his target, then AWESOME, good for him! bad for the enemy, (aka spyder)
Suck it up, and learn how to do it. Like I will. hopefully.. ;D |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-02-26 06:11:13 By: Anonymous | | | yes its a game |
Re: car bombing not valid?
Posted on: 2006-03-02 13:05:42 By: Anonymous | | As an avid car bomber (its a nice change to reviving people all the time), I would like to add my 2 cents:
1) Car bombing is not as simple as some people would make it out to be. A skilled tank/apc operator can easily destroy the incoming car before being blown up. I’m not that terribly good at driving tanks myself but have thwarted many a would-be car bomber.
2) Unless the driver of the targeted vehicle is a complete idiot, the only method of blowing him up is to detonate as soon as you reach the target. This effectivly makes this method suicide bombing and will lose your team 1 point and cost you 10 seconds of play time – adequate punishment for “throwing your ethics (in a game) out of the window”.
3) On many maps (Karkand, Sharqi, etc) car bombing is not feasible due to the small number of vehicles and terrain that does not allow for fast driving.
4) Being blown up by a vehiclular bomb is no more frustrating that being blown up by C4 placed on your tank in a more conventional matter.
5) The "unrealistic simulation" aspect isn't a terribly strong argument - few things in this game are true to life (think of the medic's miraculous healing skills or the engineer's magical wrench)
6) Since a car bomber can easily be stopped by a well-placed grenade from a launcher, this may force newbie tank drivers to wait for supporting infantry before rushing into combat. To me, finding my squad without direly needed armor backup because some 15-year-old went on a joyride with the tank is far more frustrating than car bombers. |
car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-26 15:56:33 By: Anonymous | | surely this is perfectly realistic, and seeming though theres alot silly unrealtic stuff in the game like repairing a tank in 10 seconds flat with just a spanner and carrying 6 1 use anti armour missiles round at a time i think it should be in... as for only iraqis been able to use it i dont really see why anyone else wouldnt be allowed, you cant really say its to preserve soldiers because as the americans (im not familiar with chinese or urdu so i dunno how they say it) it quite clearly states "where are you going soldier? return to your post or you will be shot" when you leave the battlefield, like being in world war 1 all over again
i dont see how how suicide bombings cowardly either what with you having to kill yourself in the process... |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-26 15:59:19 By: Anonymous | | | oh and whoever the hell said the middle eatern coalition were TERRORISTS?! jesus christ, id be a little pissed if some marines turned up on my shore in an aircraft carrier wouldnt you? |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-26 16:03:34 By: Anonymous | | | AND (i really should of read all the other comments first) mines at the flag surely stop another form of annoying whoring, *bleep*ers in tanks pulling a arnie, arnt mines made for defense in the first place |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-28 11:12:23 By: spider | | Think about it!!
if you could kill using your skill (if you have any)
without getting yourself killed you would.
Therefore suicide is for the weak, skilless, or out gunned!
** Same as in real life
** Weak and cowardly - no exceptions
On the other hand if you are caught in a mission
and you are going to die anyway
then I might feel differently
** But your mission is to die!!
** To get ready to go and die is weak -
EA!!! Please Increase the spawn time to 2-3 minutes or more
and maybe just maybe some to you would learn
to play with skill as your in game life
would have some value. |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-29 19:53:22 By: Anonymous | | This all sounds funny to me. I kill you guys by the dozens.
You'll know I'm coming... just listen for the sonic boom as I swoop down from 2000ft. doing Mach 4, GAU-12/U's blazing, placing 2 JDAM's right between your sweaty cheeks.
Car bombs? Definately a valid tactic. Efficient? Absolutely not. But please, keep doing it. You all make very lovely targets.
~Nulflux |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-11-30 15:55:56 By: Anonymous | | i see what you mean about it being virtually talentless but in all fairness its something that should be fairly avoidable to a skilled player.
plus surely it has its uses in drastic situations. if you see your team getting nailed by a tank/apc and your in a position to get rid of him but there isnt any rangeable anti tank weapons its an obvious solution |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-12-02 18:24:25 By: Anonymous | | I think car bombing is a good tech. because you can stop it with team work and co-operative play if you see a car coming at you with explosives all over it shoot with anti-tank or hit it with gernades on launcher or thrown. Think of the people in iraq. what they have to go through by mec team (hahaha) car bombing a group of american soldiers. Real Challenges For The Real World !!!
Enjoy =VtC= Sepinroth |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-12-06 10:45:29 By: Anonymous | | | get over yourself man. quit whining and just play. there are no rules in war. |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2005-12-13 09:47:58 By: Anonymous | | | SKILL This skill that ITS A GAME INSTEAD OF CRYING ABOUT WHAT YOU CANT STOP GET BETTER ! SHOW some of this SKILL you blow about and kill them FIND a way and do it. i love this I CANT BEAT HIM SO ILL ASK EA to MAKE HIM STOP lol only SKILL spider has is crying about what he cant stop. :D |
Re: car bombs
Posted on: 2006-02-09 11:45:32 By: Anonymous | | Silly and unrealistic? Come on....would you want to play a game where you as the engineer are actually repairing a tank for several hours? Or for that matter where a battle takes several days (not to mention the 24 hours or more it will take you to get TO the battle)? I have a job and school to go to....so I appreciate the ralism of at least having the option to repair in a timeframe that is realistic realative to the length of the battle.
Carbombers? Hey, whatever floats your boat....it is supposed to be war right?
As for snipers...I love them! (as long as they are on the other team)...just one less person capturing flags, sitting on a hill somewhere out of the way. have I been killed by sniper rifles? yeah, 31 times since the game came out...thats out of 7000 something deaths...I like that math. |
re: carbombing/tk punish
Posted on: 2005-12-06 20:06:49 By: Anonymous | | I think a nice patch would be too hold back the ability to punish, until a player has reached a certain level -i.e. gameplay maturity.
This is assuming said noob hasn't downloaded numerous trainers and has reached the rank of grand admiral in two days:) |
Re: re: carbombing/tk punish
Posted on: 2005-12-07 05:41:57 By: Anonymous | | If you die by your own hand.
by any method!(like falling off a roof, or car bombing)
** You should be punished by increasing your spawntime each time
** Like it used to be! |
Re: re: carbombing/tk punish
Posted on: 2005-12-10 17:04:23 By: Anonymous | | | Personally i don't have a problem with car bombing, It's kinda amusing, but I do see ur point! But bunny hopping makes my blood boil! how many soldiers have you ever seen jumping around like a retard in a firefight. If ur talking about skill then that's weak!] |
Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-12 20:05:46 By: Anonymous | | I am not sure whether im against the suicide bombers or not (it is just apart of the game) However I wholeheartidly agree it is a cheap way to get kills no skill required.
I am totally pissed with the mines issue tho....enough so I do not play engineer nearly as much because I cannot use the kit to full advantage. WHY? Stupidity thats why...the number of idiots in this game that just drive over friendly mines is unreal...and of course they punish you for thier lack of mental capacity. The mines really help defend key areas and free up more teammates to go on the offensive instead of defend an area. This issue really needs to be fixed.
I also agree with one of the posts replied here the AT weapons are horribly weak ++ WHat chopper in the world can survive being hit by a tank round answer: NONE!!!! So why is it that way in bf2 Cmon EA jeez
FA*E Tommyjoking |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-15 19:11:35 By: Anonymous | | | who cares if cowards choose to blow themselves up? its their choice. Its not cheap as it is easily stopped. 1 shot from an anti tank weapon kills most speedy viehicles. Dont you guys watch the beginning sceen where that guy uses c4 to blow up that chinese jeep thingy. Do that if u have to. IF u have a machine gun just shoot it its likely at least enough shots to kill the man will get him. well anyway. I do agree that noobs running over friendly mines are idiots and shouldnt be able to punish 4 it. well c ya |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-17 10:46:01 By: Anonymous | | | ive never been a suicide bomber and never will be but thats war as for me im an engineer and get really pissed when noobs idiots spastics call um what you like punish you for going over mines there not power ups kids.they should get punished for being thick and banned for life ok sometimes accidents do happen fair enough but DONT PUNISH |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-18 09:32:34 By: Anonymous | | I don't have a problem with car bombing. I think it requires a hell of a lot more skill than to drive around in a tank pressing a button to shoot someone. I car bomb all the time, does not mean I do not have any skill I average around 50 - 60 points per game. If someone is going to whore a tank then who cares if I strap C-4 to a jeep and blow myself and him up?
As far as snipers go, biggest panzys in the world and I knife everyone I see (friendly or not). A real man fights with a machine gun in one hand and a detonator in the other (I.E. Chuck Norris), not hiding behind a bush with a deer rifle.
The only issue I think EA needs to fix is the bunny hoppers, idiots jumping around to avoid getting shot. America's Army fixed that issue. EA could do the same but they won't. This is easily stopped though by tossing C-4 on the ground and taking you both out. |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-23 00:20:15 By: Anonymous | | | you forgot Jean Claude van Dam and Sylvester Stalone |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-27 00:11:53 By: Anonymous | | Well i agree with spider its a game its meant to be a realistic but its a GAME like most games ya play you need something called SKILL so if someone puts c4 on a car and drives it in to you and blows it up they are a NOOB in every game there are noobs and there is no way to get rid of the skilless ppl on the earth but i feel the same way about grenade launchers cuse they have no skill dont have to aim right boom ya dead why cant ppl get some skill to actually shoot choppers are fine for killing tanks and everything i have no probs with that also to get rid of a tank dont take the noobie car bomb why dont you use skill and stealth to plant c4 on it everyones going on about realism but the problem is its a GAME its not real so stop whining i dont really care about noobs when im in game i just think well i know im better than them its not really something you can complain about because noobs are everywhere in all of us but its who chooses to use it
iLiVeToDiE |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-27 14:17:39 By: Anonymous | | | Well the only one I see complaining is you and Spider... Noob |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-27 17:25:53 By: Anonymous | | lol wtf calling me noob i said i dont really care because i know im better than them noobs so i dont really think much about theres noobs and every game and it looks like your one of them... and next time read
iLiVeToDiE |
Re: Car bombs and mines and punishment
Posted on: 2005-12-27 17:28:10 By: Anonymous | | | oh and also the object of was is not to die for your country its to make the other bastard die for his |
This was in 1942
Posted on: 2005-12-29 16:19:11 By: Anonymous | | Car bombing in the Battlefield games has been around since BF1942. In 1942, you could put TNT in the back seat of a jeep and drive it right in to the enemy's face, then hop out and detonate it. What I think should happen is this -
Jeeps and other light vehicles should take significant damage when they run in to a tank or other vehicle (enough to destroy the jeep if it was already at about 3/4 of its armor) The explosion caused by this should cause C4 and other explosive things (mines, claymores, etc.) to explode around it. (I don't know if this happens already, but I haven't noticed it yet)
If this is in/will be put in to the game, THEN car bombing will become a serious problem. Because you won't have to worry about jumping out in time to blow up your ride, all you need to do is crash it in to something.
Since reading the article, I now feel obligate to car bomb somebody. I'll go play Strike at Karkand, load up a MEC jeep with C4, then park it in the middle of a base.
I'll sit back and wait till somebody gets in/gets close... then I'll watch the fireworks :) |
Re: This was in 1942
Posted on: 2005-12-31 10:46:31 By: Anonymous | | yeah leave a something at a base with c4 is fine i dont mind that as long as your not commiting suicide its fine cuse thats like running by a tank putting c4 on it and running away to blow it up and i used to do what you said too i used to put 2 c4 at the bottem of my apc and then when its low on life or if i took 1 rocket id run some1 noob is there and think ooo cool free apc runs in then boom
hiding c4 is smart like on sharqi playing as usmc i used to put 2 c4 on the pillar (concerete block things on city entrace) and the tanks that go that way cant see it and see that that road looks clear they get to the pillar and boom |
hellYEAH get those AROMOR PUSSYS
Posted on: 2006-01-02 06:46:18 By: Anonymous | | | if u cant shoot an tank BLOW IT UP WITH C4 CARS..CUS THE TANK LAMER WIL SPAWN RAPE UR TEAM MATES ANYWAY...and i got loads of tanks ;)...im supreme skilled with c4 lolol...like frisbee style...but use what u have to use to get aRMOR. whats fair....AN TANK..against ppl...ORE c4 CAR against ARmor...im down with the last one...and ppl who say that those c4 car guys dont have skill LOL look my stats...and if ur SO SKILLED KIL THAT C4 CAR..DONT WHINE LIKE AN WOMAN HERE ...=CF=G.I.NOOB.-}TOW{- |
Re: hellYEAH get those AROMOR PUSSYS
Posted on: 2006-01-02 17:10:06 By: Anonymous | | | 1. ya got those stats from being a noob i got my stats from shooting ppl with bullets 2. infantry in the army can come across tanks all the time and its up to them to deal with it either that or they call an airstrike or get another tank then dont say oo looks heres a car im gonna put c4 in it and drive it in to the enemy tank and blow myself up your noob get over it............ |
Re: hellYEAH get those AROMOR PUSSYS
Posted on: 2006-01-04 08:53:29 By: Anonymous | | | Thanks to SF, the armour is no longer over powering, and infantry can go about shooting infantry, which is the best part of the game! but in normal bf2, armour is too overpowering and brings an imbalance to the game. if i see some guy on a 30 man killing spree in a tank, then i will "jihad" the mo fo! yea, c4 on a car is a game exploit, but its an exploit that can be used to get rid of tank whores. if your in anyway upset by being c4'd in this way, then this proves that at some point, you have been in a tank! now, i have no respect for ppl in armour. they are the real noobs! us who place c4 on cars....we are the remedy! |
Re: hellYEAH get those AROMOR PUSSYS
Posted on: 2006-01-07 21:53:06 By: Anonymous | | I think some of you are retarded... You're not looking at the situation correctly. When a tank is whoring the place up suicide bomb him. The points cancel out and the tank is gone. You dont even realize that when they kill themselves they dont get points unless they kill more than 1 person. Suicide = -2. Kill = +2. 2-2=0 =D. Now Im going to agree that i do suicide bomb... depending on the lvl. Big maps i do small maps i Dont. My rank is high because i kill people not suicide bomb. So don't call them Noobs... They just know how to pimp the system.
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Completely legit.
Posted on: 2006-01-16 11:35:15 By: Anonymous | | Ahh this is ultra fair, and whoever first did it should be commended. We use it against very hardened targets, often times the SpecOp who detonates it is killed, but does his team/squad a great justice.
I dont even think EA/Dice was surprised at this use of the C4, they did make them stick for a purpose and most likely not just for sticking on walls. No doubt, it will be considered a 'dirty tactic' especially from a western point of view, but throughout history its been used time and time again, the Japanese 1 man subs, the Japanese Zero fighters, the Middle East (need not mention as Im sure everyone is up to speed here)
Just wanna end with: BF2 is a phenomenal game, I've been playing since the game released, and each day Im shocked at the scenarios teams can find themselves locked into.. Its amazing, its brutal, its teamwork/warefare at its finest. Although occaisionally you get jet pilots who are just to damn good, and it can spoil things a little, although for me, it just makes me more scared, which is a GREAT thing.. fearing a game haha SWEET
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Re: Completely legit.
Posted on: 2006-01-16 18:53:10 By: Anonymous | | this is an okay statagy but it could use refinment but anyway i like that EA has made all the wepons so flexible so that you have you own signiture techniques like car boming like i have a varity of colorful things i do with those sniper anti-personnel mines.
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Crying because you're getting owned by noobs?
Posted on: 2006-02-03 09:12:14 By: Anonymous | | I think it's funny how these great skilled players keep crying when they're killed by noobs with no skill.. perhaps it's they that lack the skill?
I had the same thing in CoD.. the rifle players would cry.. waah you use a machine gun you have no skill, waah you use a scope you have no skill.. waah you use a tank you have no skill.. it seems if you didn't use a rifle with iron sites you had no skill as far as they were concerned.
Car bombing is a valid tactic.. get over it. I have lots of skill.. but do I car bomb? yes, sometimes, becuase it's fun... omg having fun in a game? how insane!
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Re: Crying because you're getting owned by noobs?
Posted on: 2006-02-04 18:49:30 By: Anonymous | | so you call killing ya self to get a kill skill shows how skillful you are skill is keeping alive for a long time while getting kills thats why ya see me on server with 10-30 kills to 0-5 deaths thats skill not someone who carbombed and has like 25kills 25 deaths wonder who would have the most points! i wonder who is more skillfull i wonder who will be at the top of the leader board i wonder who the skilless noob is i wonder...! whos stats would look better think about that noob!
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Re: Crying because you're getting owned by noobs?
Posted on: 2006-02-09 00:21:31 By: Anonymous | | I agree on both sides of the statement. I do not like car bombing done incorectly, I.E. teamkills as a result or freindly damage, But proper use and technique, killing the target and staying alive is a tactic i use everytime i play. I kill even more tanks by attaching c4 on foot. In a game people want fair which is understandable, but if this is an attempt to mimic real life then there is no fair. There are many things about this game that get me upset, i have died multiple times due to car bombs. If you watch your back set your controllers up and dont back yourself into a corner you can see enemy car bombers coming from and attackable distance. I think many people get mad because yes alot of people do this tactic, but im sure some of them run around with their granade launcher out the whole time also. Or snipers who run around and jump throw claymore at people. I see these tactics used all the time as a Intel analyst in the military and they are used more than you would expect. Oh has anyone seen a mine attached to the front of a car and driven into a target!
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Re: Crying because you're getting owned by noobs?
Posted on: 2006-02-09 21:26:58 By: Anonymous | | #1 rule of war..... kill the enemy before they kill you.(PERIOD)
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C4 suicide
Posted on: 2006-02-12 05:03:01 By: Anonymous | | If I see a tank attacking my base, i run to it and plant my C4 on it. Than it doesn't matter if I am to close or not, I just blow up the *bleep*ing tank and if I die with it, so wath. Somethimes you must do things like that to serve your army. And the C4 cars, one grenade from an assault and the car is blown away. its to easy, i just start laughing when i see a car coming my way. And the engeneers, they should earn more points for taking out a tank, now it is just the points for the people in it. But for taking out a tank you must earn points toe. And punnishing them fore runing over their mines is a crime
pieterminator, c u on the battlefield
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Re: C4 suicide
Posted on: 2006-02-12 16:52:07 By: Anonymous | | the person who said rule 1 of war kill the person before they kill you if ya commit suicide then whats the points means ya dead too...
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Suicide Bombing and NOOb death by mine
Posted on: 2006-02-13 00:58:28 By: Anonymous | | I completly agree with you spider on both subjects. This car bombing deal is such crap, I mean, i don't mind the spec ops guy that runs up to my tank, plants some c4 on my forehead then kills me because that is me just being not focused. This suicide by c4 strapped to a vehicle, blah, I can't stand getting killed by them, especially if it's the Chinese or Americans.
And for the NOOb death by mine, every single time they punish the engineer and I agree, it makes the player that play the game for the fun and rank increase not want to properly defend a location.
GO Spider!!!!
P.S.
I am looking for a clan for Battlefield 2, so if there is an open spot, respond to this and if not, respond anywyas nad let me know, thanks.
Ares0526
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Re: Suicide Bombing and NOOb death by mine
Posted on: 2006-02-16 21:05:25 By: Anonymous | | only armor and apc whores would complain about car bombers
and you know it
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Re: Suicide Bombing and NOOb death by mine
Posted on: 2006-02-18 10:25:11 By: Anonymous | | stupid tank whores complain about car bombing while they sit and spawn camp !! in heavily armored vehicles !!
then your balls get so big as to complain about car bombing.
shut up you a$$h0le.
i bet you think your so skilled, when you play the head bop game at chucky cheese too. By the way its a game for little kids (not much skill to it)... oh boy someone disoriented at spawn get em before they see me .. ha.ha.ha.
.... not a whole lota skill at all .
the real skill is not sitting in the tank the whole map
that truely is for noobs, sad ,little, pathetic noobs who cry about car bombing boo..friggin.. hoo.. you whore
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Re: Suicide Bombing and NOOb death by mine
Posted on: 2006-02-27 01:20:05 By: Anonymous | | Ok. ok... so there's lot's of stupid people in the world and yes it would be nice to not get punished for a)running in front of an already moving vehicle but especially dumbasses running over mines which are clearly marked...
Since we're whining like Ed Newman... How about hopping into a hellicopter and have the pilot be a total n00b and crash it within 15ft and everyone dies. We should be able to punish stupidity but unfortunately. that's not how it works.
... Anyways to the jihad jeep point. (yeah... much better ring) Often there isn't a good way to get close to a tank that doesn't come close to jumping up and down just saying shoot me while I try to throw a grenade or something pretty much ineffectual at you. So defending your flag or just taking out that tank that's sitting just outside your spawn waiting for you and the rest of your team to pop up for the easy kill... Go ahead! How many times do you get pinned down by a tank or apc and nobody in their right mind decides to spawn with an anti-tank kit??? So now you might. Oh but you get that one shot off and they kill you.
Anyways, if we were going for reality this is a better example then most. That move is one of desperation and I fully admit I'll pull it when I'm desperate to take out a tank. You say an American wouldn't do it? Well no... Not right now because we're in a position of power. We can sit it choppers a mile away and level an entire city and they'd never see us. How's that for reality? Let's make the MEC as effectual as the Iraqi military during the gulf wars. That would make things a whole lot more realistic AND BORING AS HELL.
And since nobody really knows what the Chinese military is currently capable of, lets just have them get twice as many people on one side...
Granted at that time I guess we would be well within our right to use a little C4 to even the score.
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Re: whiner
Posted on: 2006-02-18 17:51:49 By: Anonymous | | Well said!
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ALL
Posted on: 2006-02-19 11:46:36 By: Anonymous | | Ok, the bottom line here is that it is a game. The whole "in real life" thing is crap. Hello, this isn't real life, it's a game. In real life, when you get shot, you die! You don't respawn on your squad leader. If you want reality, there are mods out there that give you one life. Players, and in real life, soldiers, must move carefully, mutually supporting one another, with all assets, infantry, armor, and air, moving jointly according to a plan that is constantly updated and revised by skilled commanders at the base and/or in the field. This is a game, and within the parameters of the game, you do whatever it takes to win. Anything goes!
I am glad they've fixed the teamkill mines and claymores. It makes them effective now.
Oh, and I prefer Jihad Jeep to car bomb. I has a nicer ring to it, don't you think?
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Re: ALL
Posted on: 2006-02-20 08:23:48 By: Anonymous | | wtf did you just say? your glad they fixed it?
so your saying your glad someone has created an indestructable mine with mini supercomputers in them telling from friend and foe and each sniper can lay 4 of them at a time.... hell why dont everyone go sniper on defence on sharqi peninsula and place em everwhere and go back to tv station for a cup of tea because they dont need to worry about they enemys you got an indestructable minefield on your side! EA is dumb for encountering stupid ppls problems with a stupid solution. like 1. someone putting clays over your friendly main base DUMB! 2. someone seeing the red skull and crossbones and still walks/drives over clays or mines. *bleep* why dont they put nukes and biological war fare in there anything else to make the game less fun and unplayable!
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Re: ALL
Posted on: 2006-02-28 03:22:39 By: Anonymous | | Hahahah and I also think its hilarious how the ex-servicemen/marines that post on here dont see the picture from a non USA point of view ie:the US wouldnt car bomb. BUT the USA would go and kill people in other countries for Israels gain - wtf. Also dont worry about suicide bombers in the US MArine corp its the choppers and aircraft that'll get you...friendly fireeeee. In my humble opinion the Americans are the best equipped and worst trained army in the world.
Regards
Anti USA man
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Jihad Jeep, as I lovingly refer to them
Posted on: 2006-03-03 14:41:06 By: Anonymous | | lol
Weep more, novices!
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Could be made valid
Posted on: 2006-03-06 17:41:25 By: Anonymous | | 1st thing... anytime someone inflicts damage on themselves ie a bomb/grenade this should be a special case 'suicide' and they should have to wait 60 seconds to be reborn from their stupidity. Even if that was someone's mind set to commit suicide its a stupid thing to do. Yes all suicide bombers are STUPID (the real ones, not the game players). I think the extra wait time would bring balance to this tactic.
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SHOULD remain valid
Posted on: 2006-03-07 19:58:02 By: 5815 | Edited By: 5815
On: 2006-03-07 19:59:48 | unsatisfied
Yes, carbombing is frustrating, but it's real. How about everyone stops the godamn whining about "ramming" and "C4" bombing and just play the game. I personally think it's funny to carbomb, be carbombed, and any more measures to take away from this game will really kill it. Already you can't throw Medic kits or C4 when you jump. PLease stop the whining.
P.S. Grow a set and quit posting anonymously.
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